M1Approve/Amend tonight's meeting agenda of September 25, 2018
moved by Pilon, seconded by Rainville
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Sunday, November 25, 2018
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The City Council and Planning & Zoning Commission held a joint meeting to discuss the 2040 Comprehensive Land Use Plan (including annexation/settlement impacts, commercial/industrial areas, frontage roads, and parks/trails) and took public comments before adjourning.
11 items as recorded in the packet and minutes.
A1Call to Order / Pledge of Allegiance / Roll Call
A2Approve/Amend tonight's meeting agenda (September 25, 2018) (including moving public comments)
Agenda amended so public comments were at the end of the meeting.
A3Approve/Amend August 27, 2018 Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
A42040 Comprehensive Land Use Plan Discussion
Discussion included detachment/annexation settlement terms, commercial/industrial expansion, frontage road plan, park & trail amendments, and community perspectives.
A4aDetachment/Annexation Area Settlement Agreement (2 acre minimum lot size and average 2 acre lot size)
A4bCommercial / Industrial District Expansion Areas or Changes
A4cFrontage Road Plan
A4dPark & Trail Amendments
A4eCommunity Perspectives
Council/P&Z discussed getting resident feedback and specific policy preferences; members discussed frontage roads and trails.
A5Floor Items / Public Comments
Public comments were taken at the end of the meeting, per the agenda amendment.
A6Adjourn
Adjourned at 8:02 PM.
What this meeting did about specific topics, organized by issue rather than by document.
2040 Comprehensive Land Use Plan update and timeline (including Met Council review)
The Council and Planning & Zoning Commission discussed the required 10-year update to the Comprehensive Plan and the schedule for submissions and review, noting the plan had been put on hold due to an annexation request and that an extension was approved through December 2019. They discussed a timeline that included submitting the Comp Plan to the Met Council by July 31, 2019, a mandatory six-month review by neighboring communities, and Met Council approval by August 21, 2020 with zoning changes following.
Agenda: A4, A4a. Speakers: Planner Liz Stockman.
Detachment/Annexation Area Settlement Agreement and 2-acre lot discussion
The joint body discussed the settlement agreement terms for the detachment/annexation area, including a 2-acre minimum and average 2-acre lot size, and reviewed the annexation area breakdown (commercial and residential acreages). During public comment, residents urged broader application of 2-acre zoning (potentially citywide) and described how changing density could affect land value and development opportunities; the planner noted there are multiple options to extend 2-acre lot zoning to other areas.
Agenda: A4a, A5. Speakers: Larry Skogquist, Debbie Mahutga, Planner Liz Stockman.
Frontage Road Plan in the 2040 plan
Participants discussed whether to keep or eliminate the frontage road plan, with a councilmember recommending removal and suggesting the county handle it, arguing it has driven developers away. A public commenter agreed and stated the frontage road plan had deterred prospective residential or commercial developers when raised.
Agenda: A4c, A4e, A5. Speakers: Bettinger, Debbie Mahutga.
Park & trail plan changes and maintenance/grant considerations
The group discussed park and trail amendments, including reshaping a park search area in the northwest corner and noting a regional trail route through Nowthen. In discussion, a councilmember expressed concern about too many miles of trail to maintain and urged focusing on manageable plans, while another member noted that trails need to be shown on the map to be eligible for future grant opportunities; a public commenter questioned pursuing grants for trails the city could not afford to build or maintain.
Agenda: A4d, A4e, A5. Speakers: Bettinger, Rainville, Debbie Mahutga.
3 motions on the record. Split votes are highlighted.
M1Approve/Amend tonight's meeting agenda of September 25, 2018
moved by Pilon, seconded by Rainville
M2Approve/Amend August 27, 2018 Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
moved by Alders, seconded by Ames
M3Motion to Adjourn
moved by Rainville, seconded by Breyen
When someone tried to remember earlier business, we cross-reference the corpus and write a short related-history note.
Pilon wanted to go on record regarding Mr. Roessler's comments to the press. Mr. Roessler never once talked to the City Council of Nowthen to discuss his land use plan.
— Pilon
What this is about
Refers back to prior public statements and interactions (or lack of them) about Kent Roessler's land use plan and related press comments.
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Reighard went on record to say that Pilon commented to the Council that he had talked with Roessler.
— Reighard
What this is about
Notes a recollection/dispute about whether the mayor previously told the council he had talked with Roessler.
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She attended an Oak Grove City Council meeting regarding the request of Nowthen property owners to detach to the City of Oak Grove.
— Debbie Mahutga
What this is about
References a prior Oak Grove City Council meeting and its vote related to Nowthen property owners seeking annexation for different lot sizes.
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He had given his copy of his 1970 Comp plan to the MN Historical Society, and anyone can go down there and read it. He encouraged the Council to read the Comp Plan from 1970.
— Dennis Berg
What this is about
Points to the 1970 Comprehensive Plan and the historical reasons for 5-acre lot zoning, suggesting the council consult that prior plan and context.
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