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Tuesday, August 22, 2017
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The Planning & Zoning Commission approved the agenda and prior minutes, then heard multiple continued public hearings and voted to recommend approval of an outdoor storage IUP for 20090 England Street, a home-extended-business IUP for 7140 Old Viking Boulevard (with withdrawals/conditions discussed), and a preliminary/final plat for a three-lot split at 19447 Nowthen Boulevard; a later CUP item for 19950 England Street was introduced and discussed (gate/fence/outdoor storage limits) in the available transcript excerpt.
8 items as recorded in the packet and minutes.
A1Call to order / roll call
Roll call was conducted and members were marked present in the transcript.
A2Approve/amend meeting agenda (August 22, 2017)
Motion carried by voice vote (ayes heard; no nays recorded).
A3Approve/amend prior meeting minutes (July 25, 2015 P&Z meeting minutes)
Motion carried by voice vote (ayes heard; no nays recorded).
A4Business from the floor
No one came forward during the floor item.
PH1Public hearing (continued): Jay Helleberg / Celsius 3 LLC — IUP for outdoor storage — 20090 England Street (PIN 20-33-25-42-0006)
Interim use permit request to allow outdoor storage on a two-acre industrial property, with screening/fence and landscaping; discussion included defining allowed outdoor storage and conditions (licensed/operable; on aggregate; within depicted area; strike item 6).
Commission voted to recommend approval with findings/conditions discussed (voice vote; no tally).
PH2Public hearing (continued): Tony and Denise Elfeld — IUP for home and extended business — 7140 Old Viking Boulevard (PIN 22-33-33-0010)
Interim use permit to allow a home and extended business; discussion included withdrawals of live auctions and used car dealer license request, hours of operation, signage size, neighbor driveway documentation, and limiting auto sales.
Motion carried to send/bring to City Council with discussed conditions/changes (voice vote; no tally).
PH3Public hearing (continued): Jimin Green Inc — preliminary and final plat to subdivide into two new five-acre lots (three total lots) on an 80-acre property — 19447 Nowthen Boulevard (PINs listed in hearing)
Preliminary and final plan approval for a three-lot split; discussion referenced engineering review (including an August 21 report), wetland delineation, cul-de-sac length, outlot configuration, and limiting future principal structures without further approvals.
Motion carried to send to City Council subject to the engineer’s August 21 report (voice vote; no tally).
PH4Public hearing: Josh Peterson — CUP/IUP for multiple buildings on a single parcel; two new storage buildings and IUP for outdoor storage — 19950 England Street
Request included a revised plan (building width change, gate location, fencing considerations) and proposed outdoor storage areas limited to a maximum of five vehicles; discussion in excerpt centered on gate type (swing vs sliding) and security/screening implications.
The provided transcript excerpt ends during discussion; no motion/vote on this item appears in the bundle segment provided.
What this meeting did about specific topics, organized by issue rather than by document.
Celsius 3 LLC outdoor storage IUP (20090 England Street)
The commission continued a public hearing on Jay Helleberg/Celsius 3 LLC’s interim use permit for outdoor storage at 20090 England Street and focused on screening (an 8-foot solid wood fence with landscaping) and enforceable limits on what may be stored outside. They discussed concerns about the site becoming a junkyard, heard a neighbor’s visibility concerns, and then voted to recommend approval with conditions discussed, including that vehicles be licensed and operable, stored on the aggregate surface only as depicted on the current site plan, and with item 6 removed from the findings because the tiny-home display would not encroach on the drainage easement.
Agenda: PH1. Motions: M3. Speakers: Liz Stockman, Jay Heidelberg, Jenny Alders.
Elfeld home extended business IUP (7140 Old Viking Blvd)
For Tony and Denise Elfeld’s interim use permit to allow a home and extended business at 7140 Old Viking Boulevard, the planner and applicant described changes since the prior hearing, including Tony Elfeld withdrawing his requests related to live auctions and a used car dealer license. The commission discussed operating hours, traffic flow, signage size questions, driveway encroachment documentation from the neighbor, and limits around vehicle sales and other business details, then voted to forward the item to the City Council with the changes discussed.
Agenda: PH2. Motions: M5. Speakers: Tony Elfeld.
Jimin Green Inc three-lot plat (19447 Nowthen Blvd)
The commission reviewed a continued public hearing for Jimin Green Inc’s preliminary and final plat to create two new five-acre lots (three total lots) from an 80-acre property at 19447 Nowthen Boulevard. Staff described updates since the prior month (including grading plan completion, wetland delineation, cul-de-sac changes, and engineering review items) and then the commission voted to send the plat forward to the City Council, subject to the engineer’s August 21 report and minor changes referenced in discussion.
Agenda: PH3. Motions: M4.
Josh Peterson storage buildings and outdoor storage (19950 England Street)
The commission began a public hearing on Josh Peterson’s request involving multiple buildings on a single parcel, two new storage buildings, and outdoor storage at 19950 England Street. Staff explained revisions to the plan and noted outdoor storage areas labeled for a maximum of five vehicles; discussion in the available excerpt centered on gate placement and whether a sliding gate might work better than a swinging gate given limited setback and driveway width, plus how fencing/security would affect units facing Iguana Street. No final action on this request appears in the provided transcript excerpt.
Agenda: PH4. Speakers: Josh Peterson.
5 motions on the record. Split votes are highlighted.
M1I'll make a motion to approve it.
moved by Commissioner Perro, seconded by Commissioner Wagner
Voice vote; ayes heard; no nays recorded.
M2I'll make a motion.
moved by Commissioner Perro
Voice vote; ayes heard; no nays recorded. Seconder not identified by name in transcript excerpt.
M3Move to recommend approval with the findings of facts that are listed, including the discussion of the operable and licensed vehicles on the aggregate surface only. And minus item 6.
Voice vote; ayes heard; no nays recorded. Mover and seconder not identified by name in transcript excerpt.
M4I'll make a motion that we send us the console with the planner and also from our engineer engineer once more more informational it has to do with the Calvert public great just say subject to the engineers August 21st report
seconded by commissioners Jerguson
Voice vote; ayes heard; no nays recorded. Mover not identified by name in transcript excerpt.
M5I'll make a motion my motion will include the changes that we have been changed per year by vehicles boats with square foot saying maximum also what they being able to hit and sell gun and guns like a good license is gonna check it out
moved by Kelly, seconded by Barry
Voice vote; ayes heard; no nays recorded.
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Speaker described a homeowners association parking policy: paying "$50 a month" for guest parking for extra vehicles.
fee
$50
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
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I think we're beating something to death here. We didn't do anything when A and B, we didn't tell them what to do when they moved in there, what they could and what they couldn't have. And now we come back and we decided we want to have a new set of rules, so every time we get a different person in here, we decide to go and change our rules.
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Speaker recalled earlier situations with businesses "A and B" and argued the commission is changing rules after the fact; this cue points to prior decisions/conditions for earlier tenants in the industrial area.
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one other in the city I'd like to look back and see how that was done I don't recall what we had to do or did I just like to keep it the same you know but I don't I do know about that person find that out before the City Council meeting
What this is about
Speaker referenced a prior City case about handling a Federal Firearms License/auction-related issue and wanted to look back at how it was done before the City Council meeting.
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Cory and I had this discussion and I believe it still six and it was a double thing if it's double faced as 12 but we could not find anything related to that that changed it so I don't know what to say seven years ago do you think it was ... maybe I'm misremembering
What this is about
Commissioners/staff tried to recall whether the sign ordinance changed (6 square feet vs 12 for double-faced) and when that change may have occurred.
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