M1I move to approve the August 23rd amended meeting agenda
seconded by Jackie
Passed
Voice vote; motion carries.
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Wednesday, August 23, 2017
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The Park and Recreation Committee approved its amended agenda and prior minutes, recommended tobacco-free city parks, and continued work on human foosball signage, ice rink concrete and lighting, and a special event permit draft.
9 items as recorded in the packet and minutes.
A1Approve or amend August 23 meeting agenda
Approve or amend the August 23 meeting agenda; members added discussion of the September 5 meeting and a special event permit before approving the amended agenda.
The amended agenda was approved by voice vote.
A2Approve or amend prior meeting minutes
Approve or amend the prior meeting minutes.
The transcript wording is garbled, but the prior minutes were approved by voice vote.
A3Floor items
Floor items included a resident comment asking the committee to think about parks and trails for bicycling because Nowthen lacks trails and shoulders.
No motion was made on the floor item.
A4Twin Lakes Beach
The committee discussed litter, cigarette butts, buoys, trash cans, signs, and enforcement at Twin Lakes Beach and then voted to recommend making both Nowthen parks tobacco-free, including the hockey and skating areas, to the City Council.
The committee carried a recommendation to the City Council; the transcript suggests at least one no vote but does not identify voters.
A5Human foosball update
The committee received a human foosball update and discussed creating a sign with rules and graphics, with the sign concept to come back at the September meeting.
No final approval was taken; the sign proposal was to return at the next meeting.
A6Ice surface updates
The committee discussed ice rink concrete, a warming house pad, donated concrete, lighting costs, wiring, poles, budget timing, and next steps for getting more complete information.
No motion was passed; members asked for more information on concrete, donated concrete, lighting, electricity, and costs.
A7September 5 meeting
The committee discussed whether to keep or change the September 5 meeting date and indicated it would keep the meeting because there were items still being worked on.
No formal motion was recorded; the chair said she wanted to keep the September 5 meeting.
A8Special event permit
The committee reviewed a draft special event permit application/checklist adapted from Spring Lake Park and discussed whether to list city amenities on the application or in the guidelines.
Members were asked to review the draft and return with ideas and suggestions on September 5.
A9Adjourn
The meeting adjourned by voice vote.
Adjournment carried by voice vote.
What this meeting did about specific topics, organized by issue rather than by document.
August 23 agenda
The Park and Recreation Committee amended the August 23 agenda by adding discussion of the September 5 meeting and a special event permit, then approved the amended agenda by voice vote.
Agenda: A1. Motions: M1. Speakers: Jackie.
Prior meeting minutes
The committee approved the prior meeting minutes by voice vote; the transcript garbles the date and wording but records that the motion carried.
Agenda: A2. Motions: M2.
Bicycle and trail access in Nowthen
During floor items, a resident said she wanted to buy a bicycle but felt Nowthen lacked trails and shoulders for safe riding, and asked the committee to start thinking about parks and trails.
Agenda: A3.
Twin Lakes Beach litter and tobacco-free parks
After a complaint about litter, cigarette butts, and the missing swim-area buoys at Twin Lakes Beach, the committee debated whether signs or a tobacco-free rule would help despite limited enforcement. The committee carried a recommendation to make both Nowthen parks tobacco-free, including the hockey and skating areas, and send it to the City Council.
Agenda: A4. Motions: M3. Speakers: Dan, Mary, Committee member Bassett.
Human foosball sign and rules
The human foosball court was reported as installed. Members discussed a proposed sign with graphics and rules, and the sign proposal was to return to the committee in two weeks for review.
Agenda: A5. Speakers: Joel.
Ice surface concrete, warming house, and lighting
The committee discussed whether to prioritize concrete for the ice rink and warming house or lighting for the skating season. Members asked for more information on the concrete donation, the concrete bid, the full cost of lights, poles, wiring, installation, and how any 2017 or 2018 funding would work.
Agenda: A6. Speakers: Joe, Mary, Chris, Dan.
September 5 Park and Recreation meeting
The committee discussed the September 5 meeting date and the chair said she wanted to keep the meeting because the committee had ongoing work.
Agenda: A7. Speakers: Mary.
Special event permit draft
The committee reviewed a draft special event permit application and checklist adapted from Spring Lake Park. Members discussed how to list city amenities and were asked to review the draft and return with suggestions on September 5.
Agenda: A8. Speakers: Corinne.
4 motions on the record. Split votes are highlighted.
M1I move to approve the August 23rd amended meeting agenda
seconded by Jackie
Voice vote; motion carries.
M2move to approval
Voice vote; motion carries.
M3we make both parks tobacco-free including the hockey and skating areas and move this to the City Council
Voice vote; ayes and a no are audible in the transcript, but no individual voters are identified; motion carries.
M4motion to adjourn
Voice vote; motion carries.
Each figure links back to the document it came from. When the council voted on the amount, the motion is shown.
F1
Estimated cement slab cost for the warming house.
estimate · warming house concrete pad · FY 2017
$2,400
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
F2
A speaker cited a $16,000 figure for lights at another rink as a comparison while discussing Nowthen rink lighting.
estimate · rink lighting example
$16,000
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
F3
Estimated cost per light fixture for the ice rink lighting discussion.
estimate · light fixtures
$450
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Council approval status: not yet on record.
When someone tried to remember earlier business, we cross-reference the corpus and write a short related-history note.
I always thought that my policies get banned hard liquor because I remember when we first did the Lions fishing contest they were worried about going through the park with the alcohol to the lake
What this is about
A speaker recalled an earlier concern about alcohol rules during the Lions fishing contest while discussing park smoking, litter, and possible rules at Twin Lakes Beach.
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I'm looking at the council meeting minutes from August a button to read a motion to proceed forward with installing from well order the width of 18 feet place them and pick the best thing about the verified pretty symmetrical motion carried
What this is about
A speaker referred to August council meeting minutes about the prior approval to proceed with human foosball installation.
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when we were talking about the lights is the final isn't the final configuration there'd be two parallel links and then one of the x-rated waterless meeting said that overflow lights wouldn't be good enough for the fun rink that was it they wanted lights we were gonna have lights around bowling rooms so we were talking about eight lights instead of four am I wrong on that you're right does anybody remember that discussion
What this is about
A speaker recalled a prior meeting discussion about whether the future ice rinks would be parallel and whether lighting would be needed around both rinks.
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I saw temporary lights at the rank this pest Oh am be donated yeah they were pulled behind a tractor correct didn't do those work I mean could they get you through again that's through another season that way
What this is about
A speaker recalled temporary lights used at the rink during the prior season, apparently donated by A&B.
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if you're gonna present something to the council and ask the council to look at funding it within the existing budget or 2018 budget we need the whole picture we've been down that road before
— Mary
What this is about
Mary recalled prior experience with incomplete cost information when advising the committee to bring the full rink-lighting cost picture to the City Council.
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we have had general conversation but there's been no directionality one obtaining costs location of it no cost job we've not had any direction provided to to go out and look for getting it to to get costs for it
— Mary
What this is about
Mary stated that there had been general prior conversation about a well, but no direction to obtain costs or choose a location.
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